[Dshield] SANS going to proctored exams?

[Joel Esler]

When was CISSP respected?  4 years ago?  I haven't talked to anyone in the
past 2 years that respects it.  I think at this point it's becoming
extremely overrated, and is being aimed at the wrong people.
Forcing technicians to get the CISSP (which is largely viewed as a
management cert).. is that a waste?

But do you want someone working for you that can memorize a book and go take
the exam and then dump the info?  Or do you want someone who knows how to
find the answer everytime? (Google)

J

On Dec 7, 2007 9:05 AM, <jeffrey.stebelton at citi.com> wrote:

> If we want our GIAC certs to be respected as much as a CISSP or other
> certifications, there has to be a verifiable way to show that 1) the
> person
> who holds the cert actually took the exam 2) didn't take the exam while on
> the phone with his security expert buddy feeding him the answers  and 3)
> didn't find a third of his answers off of Google while taking the bloody
> exam (although I will say SANS tests are hard enough that if you didn't
> study and prepare, Google isn't going to pass your exam for you). I'm all
> for taking the test in the comfort of your own home (I just passed one two
> nights ago sitting in my jeans, t-shirt and slippers, and yes I got a
> snack
> and veg'd out a bit between exam 1 and 2). But if at the end of the day
> potential employers don't take my certs seriously because there's too much
> about the process that can't be verified, I'll drive to a testing center,
> take both tests in one shot and suffer a little inconvenience and
> discomfort to get a cert that really means something.
>
> Jeff Stebelton, GCFW GCIA GCIH CEH ESSE
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> I don't really agree with this one.  Much the same as I didn't with the
> axing of the practical.
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