[Dshield] SANS going to proctored exams?

[Joel Esler]

Exactly.  Let's conduct a litmus test.  For those of you that read the
dshield list in gmail.  Log into the gmail web version, look at this thread,
then look over to the right.  Read the ads.
What does that tell you?

J

On Dec 7, 2007 11:54 AM, Fielder, Wayne (CPE) <Wayne.Fielder at ky.gov> wrote:

> The frustrating part for me has been that they require the CISSP cert,
> they hire themselves a CISSP, then said CISSP realizes he/she is in over
> their head so they hire GSEC/GCIH/GCIA folks to cover for them.
>
> Our certs HAVE RESPECT among those folks who matter.  Yeah, that's a
> pretty elitist statement but my experience has born that out.
> Unfortunately those who matter don't work at OSI or SACS apparently.  It
> may well be the apparent rule of thumb that CISSP is for management
> while our certs are for the weed whackers.  Personally, I'm happy to be
> in the weeds.  Tried the management piece and didn't care for it thank
> you.  No offense to you CISSP holders intended, I'm just overly
> frustrated at the moment.
>
> I prefer keyboards to conference phones as my primary work instrument.
>
> As for the proctored exams, I'm with Joel.  Leave the practical as a
> part of the cert and the exams become VERY secondary.  Anyone can
> memorize books and regurgitate on command.
>
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> Wayne Fielder GSEC(gold), GCIH(gold)              502-573-1555 x372
> Sr. Network Administrator                         502-229-5420
> Kentucky Council on Postsecondary Education
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 11:18 AM
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>
> Hmm. let me restate that. Good points. Unfortunately almost every job
> listing I see that has anything to do with information security usually
> requires or at least strongly prefers a CISSP certified candidate. So
> perhaps I should have said if we want our GIAC certs as highly desired
> and required, rather than respected....
>
> Jeff Stebelton, GCFW GCIA GCIH CEH ESSE
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--Joel Esler
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