[Dshield] OK, so what would YOU test?
Tomas L. Byrnes
tomb at byrneit.net
Fri Apr 18 18:16:30 GMT 2008
If it's web applications, then look at the tools available @
www.owasp.org
For general pen testing, use Metasploit http://www.metasploit.org/
At a basic level, I would have as a test case running all the applicable
exploits from the current versions of Metasploit and WebScarab against
the app.
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> [mailto:list-bounces at lists.dshield.org] On Behalf Of Phillip Reed
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> Subject: [Dshield] OK, so what would YOU test?
>
> I'm being tasked for developing security testing strategies
> for my company.
> I work in the testing department, so I am surrounded by
> traditional software testers who build traditional test cases
> which are done both manually and by automated tools like Silk
> and Ruby/Watir. But, my boss thinks we need to get into the
> business of more pro-actively testing security. Probably a
> good thing. We've got large software and online products, but
> little comprehensive security testing that I'm aware of, and
> I've been asking. We do have best practices and security
> development policies in place, but as far as I can tell no
> good way to make sure they are being followed.
>
> Everybody I've talked to indicates that in-depth security
> testing is more ad-hoc than the traditional form of
> functional testing, which is driven by devising use cases and
> looking for correct functionality. This corresponds with my
> own experience. Given the way our software is developed, I
> believe it won't be necessary to completely compromise a
> product -- just showing the existence of a vulnerability (SQL
> injection hole or a XSS problem, for
> example) should be sufficient to trigger the fix process.
>
> Given that we all have to start someplace, I'm getting ready
> to propose the following baby steps:
>
> 1) Develop some test strategies that can be added to the
> existing testing framework. I suspect these would initially
> take the form of simple special character, JavaScript, HTML
> and SQL injection tests for online products.
>
> 2) Get more security testing awareness added to product development.
>
> 3) Develop more in-house abilities to "hack" products, so
> that we can add a parallel security testing process alongside
> the existing functional and performance testing processes.
> This is where more advanced things like buffer overflows
> would be tested for, since that kind of testing goes beyond
> our typical "type this" test case. This is also where we
> could purchase testing tools like AppScan, though I don't
> believe that tools can completely replace human hands-on testing.
>
> Given this, I'd like to ask the community for some assistance:
>
> * Can you point me towards tales of other organizations who
> added security testing like this? There are lots of
> tactical-level resources on how to test. I'm thinking of
> books like "How to Break Web Software" as an example of a
> tactical resource. I'm looking for a more strategic view.
>
> * On a tactical level, if you were going to develop low level
> use cases for step 1, what specifically would you test? I'm
> thinking along the lines of "Type a [single quote/double
> quote/specific hex character] into every field; make sure you
> get appropriate error messages back" or "type the following
> short javascript into a field; make sure you get appropriate
> error messages". This would let us get started pushing the
> security testing idea into the wider development arena, while
> potentially gathering some low-hanging fruit.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> ...phil
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