[Dshield] Mobile-friendly DShield/ISC pages?
John B. Holmblad
jholmblad at aol.com
Wed Feb 6 00:44:28 GMT 2008
Shane/Johannes,
I think that what is needed are more www friendly mobile devices.
By way of example, I use a Nokia Internet Tablet, which is kind of like
an Iphone on steroids (it runs LInux after all) with a DSP for enhanced
graphics rendering but without the GSM radio.
The Internet Tablet renders the SANS www site just fine although it is
necessary to scroll h and v. At 80% zoom level it even eliminates the
horizontal scroll. Unfortunately for me that is a bit tiny for reading
the fine print on the SANS www site home page. The Internet Tablet even
works with my banking www site. although it creates a separate set of
scroll windows for each (frame?) of the www page. The browser on this
device is derived from Mozilla.
I prefer a device like this that can browse a standard www site instance
instead of being shunted off to a special reduced functionality www
page. I remember the early days of WAP and the tiny B&W Motorola Startac
screen and I never enjoyed the WAP friendly browsing experience.
For those interested in this product, here is the url to the www page
the N800 and the newer N810, which has a keyboard and GPS receiver.
www.nokia.com/n800
www.nokia.com/n810
Nokia is also developing a WIMAX enabled version of this product that
will soon (this year at least) be available for Sprints XHOM (WIMAX)
network. You can learn more about XOHM from the www site whose url is:
www.xohm.com
With the release of the WIMAX enabled version of the Nokia Internet
Tablet the product will, I think, lay legitimate claim to being one of
the first ~4g ("all IP/all the time") mobile devices. Here is the url to
the www page for a "rumor mill" article about when this product will
become available:
http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=13727
With respect to Windows Mobile, about a year ago I installed/tested a
Mozilla derived browser called Minimo on Windows Mobile 5.0, but it was
a resource hog and crashed quite a bit. On the other hand, it has tabbed
browsing which, to my surprise, worked okay on the small form factor
screen of my windows mobile based handset.
With IE mobile/WM 5.0 on my handset I am barely able to use my banks www
site. The Internet Tablet is the way to go even if, for me it means
carrying two devices. If I could get a battery powered USB EVDO modem
(without the USB) then I could do away with the Windows Mobile device
altogether.
I should also mention that at last year's RSA conference, which I did
not attend, a small Florida based company demoed a product consisting of
an earlier version of the Internet Tablet (the 770) running several
Linux based wireless security tools with a nice GUI. If I recall
correctly the pricetag for that product was $3k or so. Here is the url
to the www page with an article about that product:
http://content.zdnet.com/2346-12691_22-53766.html
If you would like a screenshot of my VNC of the N800 rendering of the
SANS www page send me an email off list.
Best Regards,
John Holmblad
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Castle, Shane wrote:
> I know that BB and WM5/6 devices work differently here; I have a WM6
> device using IE Mobile (can't wait til Firefox releases their Firefox
> Mobile, but it will be a while yet). (BTW, I must say that IE Mobile
> really really sucks quite badly.) Anyhow, I have 3 ways to display a
> page: "One Column", "Fit To Screen", and "Desktop". The latter one
> presents a small "desktop" screen (not larger than 640x480) that shows
> the user vertical and horizontal scrollbars to move the actual displayed
> portion around. The others trim down the display to fit my little
> 240x320 screen (actually less as it's inside a window that has top and
> bottom bars); "fit to screen" is often the suckiest on pages that aren't
> designed for mobile devices, as it will compress and overwrite portions
> of the display. Pictures slow things down enormously, and are shrunk so
> much that they are useless anyway unless the "desktop" page display
> method is chosen.
>
> Google automatically redirects to mobile-designed pages by checking the
> user-agent parameters, and that would probably be the best way to
> proceed - that way you avoid redesigning the normal pages.
>
> I'd be willing to be a test user, if necessary.
>
> --
> Shane Castle
> GSEC GCIH
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at lists.dshield.org
> [mailto:list-bounces at lists.dshield.org] On Behalf Of Matt Jonkman
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 15:58
> To: General DShield Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Dshield] Mobile-friendly DShield/ISC pages?
>
> The vertical ad banners are a hassle on my blackberry....
>
> Maybe a smaller title font as well, takes up a full screen when broken
> to a word or so a line :)
>
> matt
>
> Johannes Ullrich wrote:
>
>> tell me what you want on it ;-). I think I got a "handheld" style
>> sheet for it, but I don't think thats working too well.
>>
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Castle, Shane wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I've been using my PPC phone for a while now, and I can't help but
>>> notice that the SANS/ISC and DShield pages are not at all
>>> mobile-friendly. Are there any plans to make them so?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shane Castle
>>> GSEC GCIH
>>>
>>
>>
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