[Dshield] fighting back against CodeRed

Paul Brogden paul_brogden at lexmultipart.com
Tue Aug 7 15:10:03 GMT 2001

Would these people pay any attention to an anonymous message when they have
already ignored all the warnings from M$, Cert, et al?

What frightens me is that I'm taking a lot of hits from boxes hosted by my
own ISP (normal user's websites, not commercial sites) and that British
Telecom itself was infected (when I called to order ADSL last night I was
told they would call me back - their computers were down because of that
"red worm thing"!).

If the major companies can't get it right ...

As for what can be done with all those boxes - I reckon Steve Gibson is
using them to show The Register (www.theregister.co.uk) the power of raw
sockets - the site has been strangely unavailable all day. <g>


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Peter Street [SMTP:lazerfx at ntlworld.com]
> Sent:	Monday, August 06, 2001 9:30 PM
> To:	dshield at dshield.org
> Subject:	RE: [Dshield] fighting back against CodeRed
> ------ Quote
> I'm proposing a program run on a series of machines that listen for
> coderedII
> attempts, and when they receive them, neutralize the coderedII worm on the
> attacking host via the backdoor, run a windows update, or run the patch
> for
> this hole on the attacker, and then reboot the system to bring it back up
> clean of the worm and protected
> ------ /Quote
> I can appreciate this, however, perhaps it would be worthwhile to send
> them
> a message?  Instead of actually backdooring the machine outright, running
> code on it that could, potentially, screw up the machine (Yes, I know the
> possibility is very small, but there is always the chance), why don't we
> use
> the backdoor to send a message to the user, something like, 'You are
> compromised by the CodeRedII virus, get the update from
> windowsupdate.microsoft.com' or similar?
> I'm sure this is possible using access to cmd.exe, and it appears this is
> what the CR-II virus gives you.  I shudder to think what some malicious
> hacker could do to those systems...
> Peter Street / LazerFX
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