[Dshield] Hard to Read this List Sometimes

Wayne Beckham wbeckham at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 26 14:45:34 GMT 2002


 
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Cool!  I wonder why MS thought that was easier than the old "plain
text check box?!

Thanks again.

- - Wayne

- -----Original Message-----
From: list-admin at dshield.org [mailto:list-admin at dshield.org] On
Behalf Of Peter Stendahl-Juvonen
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 5:17 AM
To: list at dshield.org
Subject: RE: [Dshield] Hard to Read this List Sometimes


Bob, James, Justin, Wayne, et al.

>Justin is right about setting certain addresses to plain-text in 
>outlook, but I'll be darned if I can find the option!  In
>Outlook2000  it was on the "front page" or default view of the
>contact.  Microsoft  has moved it in OL2002 and I'll be darned if I
>can find it.  Can anyone  point me in the right direction?

1) Open "Address Book". [Point with cursor and left click on address
book icon]
2) Double click the address (list at dshield.org) [in the address list
window]
3) Point at email address window (where you can see: list at dshield.org
) and double click on this address
4) Outlook will give you three choices for mail type to be sent to
this address [in the Email format properties window]
	a) Let Outlook decide the best format
	b) Send in plain text <<<<< Pick this one <<<<<
	c) Send in Outlook RTF format

In general, you can also ask Outlook [Wizard or in Help] how to
perform the above task. (In this case, the search words "plain text "
would guide you thru the procedure explained above.)

Using the in built facilities of Outlook provides ease-of-use and
sterile way to the end-user to educate him-/herself in the challenges
he/she faces.
 
Best Wishes,
Peter
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- -----Original Message-----
From: list-admin at dshield.org [mailto:list-admin at dshield.org] On
Behalf Of Bob Savage
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 2:41 PM
To: list at dshield.org
Subject: RE: [Dshield] Hard to Read this List Sometimes

Good suggestion, James, for more reasons than one.  I do think
there's something new I can learn here:

I use Outlook and have it set for text only.  However, I don't see
the phenomenon on other posts that James talks about below.  Why is
he seeing it and I'm not?

Thanks,

Bob


- -----Original Message-----
From: James C. Slora, Jr. [mailto:Jim.Slora at phra.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 5:03 PM
To: list at dshield.org
Subject: [Dshield] Hard to Read this List Sometimes


It is very often difficult to read posts in this list because of all
the extra junk that shows up when people using Outlook compose their
mail in Word or in HTML.

I'm not the list manager and I do not represent any authority, but
I'd like to suggest that posts should be sent in Plain Text whenever
possible - to make the list more readable.

MS Word and HTML formats both cause the entire content of a message
to appear twice - once in plain text, and once with all of the extra
characters required to render HTML. Word also adds a bunch of XML
that further clutters its messages.

It might seem un-stylish for this list to not render the HTML instead
of displaying the ugliness of the underlying code, but there are some
good reasons this type of list should use Plain Text:

   1. We sometimes need to share specifics of exploit code including
email and HTML exploits, and we want our code to be displayed
verbatim instead of being interpreted. This is why it would not be
appropriate for the list manager to automatically remove the
duplicate information and HTML code.

   2. There are a huge variety of people on this list, and they do
not all use mail clients that render HTML.

We could ask the list moderators to manually edit out redundant
information, but we are lucky they are able to devote time to
maintaining this list (and filtering the Spam out) as it is.

My two bits (little-endian).


Those who know how to set up Outlook (or those who just disagree with
me), read no further. I don't want to patronize anyone. For those who
would like some help, my recommendations are below.

How to Set Outlook to Compose Messages Appropriately for a Mailing
List
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- -

>From the Outlook Inbox window:

- - Tools > Options
- - "Mail Format" tab
Uncheck "Use Microsoft Word to edit e-mail messages"
and set "Send in this message format" to "Plain Text"

If you need or want to use Word for most of your email, you can use
the above procedure each time you are composing a message to the list
- - and change it back when you are finished.

If you like to use HTML email for the majority of your messages,
that's OK - you can leave your "Send in this message format" setting
at "HTML". When you are composing a message to this list, you can set
just the one message to Plain Text from the composition window:

- - Format > Plain Text

I wouldn't worry about lose the SPeling and graMar cheking in Word -
we friendly folks on the list will forgive the occasional typ0 ;-)

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