[Dshield] real sure about it

Susan pobox2 at pinn.net
Mon Mar 18 18:33:08 GMT 2002

Yes you can have damaged boot records and not even know it. They can 
boot you into a subsystem type area that runs as normal as your normal 
win setup. But copies everything to another partition with .* files you 
cannot see on windows. Matter of fact what i found was that you can lots 
of damaged anything and not even know it. Hacking is more than a hobby 
to some, its a corporate affair with apparently many hours spent in 
development. Many hack progs seem very very legitimate. They can use 
trojan replacements for windows .exe's that appear normal but run 
streams from other progs. If I didn't build websites myself and have a 
bit of experience prior I would have never noticed the teeny 1 pix 
windows opening up that were shipping our mail around the world. 
Catching that originally and having from experience used that trick 
myself on websites to open new pages... seemingly from nowhere to the 
average user...

re-essage: 11
Subject: RE: [Dshield] Quiet secure mailbox
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:44:17 -0600
From: "Bob Savage" <bsavage at rnr-inc.com>
To: <list at dshield.org>
Reply-To: list at dshield.org

Hi, all.

I've been following discussions here for about a month and most of it is
far over my head.  It's a learning experience and I've got a lot to

However, I'm really confused about Susan's message here.

I run a small business network that's almost 100% Microsoft....


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