[Dshield] Spam Kills!
rilya1 at yahoo.com
Fri Nov 29 15:10:17 GMT 2002
Thank you for introducing me to your site! I haven't
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--- Ed Truitt <ed.truitt at etee2k.net> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <KeithTarrant at spamcop.net>
> To: <list at dshield.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 12:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dshield] Spam Kills!
> > This is old news. The US State Department says
> that at any given point in
> > time there are an average of 10 American in
> Nigeria looking for their
> > money. For them to disappear isn't unusual. The
> Nigerians run the scam
> > all over the world, not just in the USA.
> It's not just the Nigerians, either. There have
> been examples of AFF coming
> from several African nations, and some new variants
> are originating in the
> Philippines and other Pac Rim nations. In fact, I
> have received almost a
> half dozen "offers" originating from the
> Netherlands, and IIRC one that came
> from the Montana area.
> > I don't see blaming victims of crime for this
> It isn't a matter of "blaming" them. However, the
> initial letter is, to put
> it simply, an offer to commit fraud on a MASSIVE
> scale. And, if I may say
> so, a pretty blatant one, too. In this type of
> scam, along with pyramid
> schemes (MMF), the person is at the same time a
> victim and a collaborator,
> or active participant, in a criminal act. When they
> cross the line, then I
> tend to see them as perps, not solely as victims.
> > It isn't a sin to be stupid or to see the world
> through rose colored
> > glasses.
> No, but it IS illegal to enter a country without the
> proper papers, and it
> IS illegal to attempt to obtain by fraud that which
> doesn't belong to you.
> My own thoughts on these letters can be seen at the
> following URLs:
> http://www.etee2k.net/nigeria_419.html (a pretty
> http://www.etee2k.net/scc/scc_419_scam.html (this
> one has LOTS more
> > Otherwise all those people who took stock options
> with .coms, and those
> > people who took A++ and MSCE courses in search of
> 7 figure incomes would
> > be dammed too.
> I don't know about that, but I was speaking out
> against the .coms as being
> nothing more than glorified Ponzi schemes (you know,
> where you pay off old
> investors with money received from new investors).
> However, I think that
> comparing working at a .com or taking a class to
> attempting to steal several
> MILLIONS of $s from an impoverished nation is like
> comparing planting a tree
> to dumping used motor oil down a sewer. Out of the
> back end of a tanker
> truck. Next to a day care center. While the kids
> are out playing.
> > - Keith
> And, to keep this somewhat on topic, I have noticed
> that many of these
> offers are bounced off of open SMTP relays (so I can
> get the originating
> Ed Truitt
> PGP fingerprint: 5368 D25E 468C A250 9833 CCD6
> DBAE 9C25 02F9 0AB9
> "Note to spammers: my 'delete' key is connected to
> YOUR ISP.
> Also, if you send me UCE, I reserve the right to
> post your spew
> on my Web site, with the appropriate color
> commentary, so that
> others may have a good laugh at your expense."
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