[Dshield] power outages all across North Eastern US

Brenden Walker BKWalker at DRBSystems.com
Fri Aug 15 18:33:41 GMT 2003

It's a good thing the Southern California Gas Company is still using OS/2
(at least last I heard), a shutdown of gas distribution would cause power
failure in a lot of places as well..

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon R. Kibler [mailto:Jon.Kibler at aset.com] 
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 1:31 PM
> To: General DShield Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Dshield] power outages all across North Eastern US
> Geoff Shively wrote:
> > 
> > Jon, Great points and they pretty much coincide with my thinking in 
> > this problem. Though there is one thing that is somewhat of a 
> > contradiction in logic that I have heard a few times from others as 
> > well.
> > 
> > >If the Internet had been the source of the problem, I 
> think we would 
> > >have seen a failure REAL EARLY into this worm.
> Ok, let me clarify...
>    Previously I said: If the Internet had been the source of 
> the problem...
>    What I really meant: If the system causing the failure had 
> been DIRECTLY CONNECTED to the Internet...
> Yes, the Internet is the source of all the infections (except 
> for the miscreant that created the worm!). The point I was 
> trying to make is that a SCADA system that used the Internet 
> to communicate with the control room would like have failed 
> early. In contrast, a system infected through an internal 
> network, such as via a contaminated laptop, would be result 
> in a later failure.
> I also have to agree with Johannes' comments that someone 
> could have changed a router to block a critical port being 
> another potential, albeit indirect, coincidence of the worm.
> However, I still have strong doubts that the failure was worm related.
> Jon R. Kibler
> A.S.E.T., Inc.
> Charleston, SC  USA
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