[Dshield] Re: did windowsupdate finally crack?
svondandamo at mercury-eur.com
Thu Aug 21 18:13:34 GMT 2003
I do administer a large network spread in several countries and I do use
UpdateExpert to handle updates and patches.
With this product I do download all the patches in a Central location in my
network and start distributing them locally on computers.
The application checks windowsupdate sites based on the admin'schedules then
download patches to a Central Location in my networks.
The I do use Scriptlogic for writing scripts that will verify users settings
during log on process and patches/updates they machines accordingly by
requesting the appropriate patches from the Patches Central location and not
downloading them from Microsoft sites.
As you can imagine several Admins of Larger networks do have similar tools
and procedures so, I don't think Admins are to blame since they even use
more advance techniques and procedures for patches management.
" According to a friend who works for Microsoft - the "Thank you" age is
when the server is overloaded"
That is the problem and all the blame should go to them.
How can Microsoft explain customers who pay millions of dollars to buy its
products that, "Sorry, you can't download patches because my Server is
overloaded"? Can't they buy Several Servers to serve the customer need?
They can (they do have the bucks and people for that) buy several Servers
and load balance them enough to avoid such things.
I think patches priority and management lessons should be directed to
Microsoft and not the SysAdmins.
From: Doug White [mailto:doug at clickdoug.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:59 PM
To: General DShield Discussion List
According to a friend who works for Microsoft - the "Thank you" age is
when the server is overloaded. Trying back a little later usually
the correct page.
I imagine in the past two or three days, there has been a real crush to
all patches by thousands of users and admins.
Perhaps with a little more if this, some of the admins of larger networks
re-think their update and patch priorities. Of course the thinking is
the need to do patching against server downtime, but then again, with all
stuff hitting and the larger networks being brought to their knees, perhaps
priorities will change somewhat.
I know one very large network I used to administer (prior to retirement) we
instituted scripting that applies patches and current virus definitions upon
login by the user. Perhaps in some networks this is not possible, but I
patch priorities must change in order to contain these ever growing threats.
Your mileage may vary, however.................................
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth Coney" <superc at visuallink.com>
To: <list at dshield.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 11:13 AM
Subject: [Dshield] Re: did windowsupdate finally crack?
| It was down, but it is up again.
| RE: [Dshield] did windowsupdate finally crack?
| "Keith Bergen" <keith at keithbergen.com>
| Wed, 20 Aug 2003 22:23:05 -0400
| "'General DShield Discussion List'" <list at dshield.org>
| No. Seems to be working, and was working earlier today for me.
| -----Original Message-----
| From: list-bounces at dshield.org [mailto:list-bounces at dshield.org] On Behalf
| Of Andy Stevko
| Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:24 PM
| To: list at dshield.org
| Subject: [Dshield] did windowsupdate finally crack?
| Has anyone else noticed that the windowsupdate.microsoft.com site is
| offline? I've tried on two different computers and all I get is a static
| 'Thank you' page. Even the link on the MS home page leads to it.
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