[Dshield] mail1.giac.net spamcop listed]

Kenneth Coney superc at visuallink.com
Wed Dec 17 14:19:31 GMT 2003

The first solution is rewrite the law.  Take away the exemption.  About 
spamming not being a crime, that depends on where you live.  If you are in 
a jurisdiction where it isn't a crime, have them change the law. 
Intentional spamming is close enough to telephone harassment, and or, 
misuse of cable services, or misuse of computer time that a case can be 
built in some cases, even if the law is 30 years behind the technology. 
The problem is the many providers who don't enforce (or in some cases even 
have) policies.  No one should log on and have to deal with 120+ emails 
every morning on each email account.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Brenton" <cbrenton at chrisbrenton.org>
To: "General DShield Discussion List" <list at dshield.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [Dshield] mail1.giac.net spamcop listed]

| On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 12:31, Kenneth Coney wrote:
| > Total agreement (rant).  We need to put more of the responsibility on the
| > IPs.  No doubt this attitude is unpopular with the IPs.

Not a viable idea.  All the anti-spam laws, State and Federal specifically
exempt the providers from responsibility.

Secondly, spamming via a provider is not a crime, it is a civil wrong 
of AUP, etc) and anyone who is a party to a contract is legally able to fail to
enforce its provisions.

That said, I credit many providers for strictly enforcing their own anti-spam
policies (I fall into this category)
and rant about the ones that don't.

As a participant in the net, I consider it responsible to avoid abusing other
systems, but also realize I could well be in the minority with this line of
thinking.  By blacklisting those who don't act responsible, I am sending the
message that they must earn my respect, not demand it.

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