[Dshield] Re: [Full-Disclosure] Verisign abusing.COM/.NETmonopoly, BIND releases new

Jon R. Kibler Jon.Kibler at aset.com
Thu Sep 18 02:18:00 GMT 2003


George Theall wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 07:05:06PM +0300, Bob Love wrote:
> > >At least the mailer daemon there currently rejects messages right after
> > >RCPT TO rather than after transferring any message content.
> >
> > But If their intention is to harvest addresses, the mailer daemon's already
> > nabbed both the from: and rcpt to: address, in all possibility.
> 
> Keep in mind the recipient address is at a non-existent domain.
> 
> George
> --
> theall at tifaware.com
> 

Probably the best description of "The VeriSign Problem" I have seen comes from Griff Miller on comp.mail.sendmail:

> > administrator at yellowhead.com (John Coutts) wrote:
> > > I'm sorry, but I don't see what all the flap is about. I checked our
> > > log files, and for every "Sender Domain Does Not Resolve", there are a
> > > 1000 other reasons for rejection. The Spam would more than likely get
> > > rejected because of the source IP anyway. Basically, this has become
> > > an obsolete function.
> 
> If you send a check for $1000 in the mail, and make a typo when writing the
> address on the envelope, you at least have a good chance of it being returned
> to you since the address you wrote probably doesn't exist. To me, that's a
> good thing.
> 
> But if the post office were to implement the same policy as Verisign has done
> with regular mail, instead of returning incorrectly addressed mail to the
> sender, they'd just open it and see if there's anything in there they like.
> 
> -- 
> Griff Miller II                   | I  would   rather   be   exposed  to  the |
> Manager of Information Technology | inconveniences    attending    too   much |
> Positron Corporation              | liberty   than  to  those  attending  too |
> griff.miller at positron.com         | small a degree of it.  - Thomas Jefferson |

I wish I could take credit for that comment!

Jon R. Kibler
A.S.E.T., Inc.
Charleston, SC  USA




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