[Dshield] "Academic Freedom" vs Computer Security

Erik van Straten emvs.dsh.3FB4CC72 at cpo.tn.tudelft.nl
Fri Feb 13 03:19:40 GMT 2004


Doug,

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:07:17 -0600 Doug White wrote:
> I don't know how Brightmail or Postini handles it, but I suspect
> much the same way, and they are not going to accept spamming from any
> IP, no matter who the academic source.

They accept from seemingly ANY source. Then evnetually mail bounces to
someone else like me (below, vguzmanym at cpo.tn.tudelft.nl does NOT
exist, and this is the last one I have from/via Postini):

| Received: from neutron.nccray.com (unknown [66.97.228.6])
|         by mailhost3.tudelft.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70144081
|         for <vguzmanym at cpo.tn.tudelft.nl>; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 03:36:12 +0100 (MET)
[snip]
| 550 <cshepherd at nccray.com>... User unknown
|
|    ----- Original message follows -----
| Received: from psmtp.com (exprod5mx103.postini.com [12.158.34.59])
|         by neutron.nccray.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA20175
|         for <cshepherd at nccray.com>; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:37:37 -0600
| Received: from source ([64.53.54.194]) by exprod5mx103.postini.com ([12.158.34.245]) with SMTP;
|         Thu, 12 Feb 2004 18:35:59 PST
| Message-ID: <bb1201c3f1da$93f36147$41d5ccaf at hsqqmbb>
| MIME-Version: 1.0
| To: cshepherd at nccray.com
| Subject: hi
| From: "Vanessa Guzman" <vguzmanym at cpo.tn.tudelft.nl>
| Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 02:39:55 +0000

Note: http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=64.53.54.194
| IP Address 64.53.54.194 was found in the CBL.
|
| It was detected at 2004-01-18 10:00 GMT (+/- 30 minutes).

Since 11 Feb 2004 22:11:00 +0100 in total 103 messages like this
JUST from Postini :(

> Your mileage may vary.....

It does (not seeing much Brightmail).

Regards,
Erik van Straten
Delft University of Technology
The Netherlands




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