[Dshield] An Abuse-Free internet organzation
hanke.penning at iap.de
Tue Jan 20 15:55:26 GMT 2004
Hello, out there!
> I would like to create an organztion that will be mostly
> contains ISP's and users with servers, so when an ISP wound`t take care of
> her users and her users are abusing _any one_ of our members, after the
> agreemnt of all, all the members in it will block the ISP and forward there
> users to a page explaing why he cant access this server.
It seems to be something like SPEWS.ORG, but in more general manner.
Sounds nice: But, when looking at t-dialin.net (a division of the german
TELEKOM), you can send complains over and over. Nothing ever happens on
abuse#t-dialin.net. They argue that it is not their fault and that they
can send only a warning message to the user (german laws will prevent
If the blocked IP-Range is big (for example: I block Korea, Taiwan,
Hongkong, telesp.br, XO and Roadrunner) the user from that ISP will never
believe that *their* ISP in question is the reason (!) for blocking.
And what are criterias for blocking? 10 unsolved troubletickets, 100 open
proxies, 1000 spammails?
Excuse for my poor english, greetings
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