[Dshield] DHS wants to silence reporting of networkoutages --DSHIELD next?

Jon R. Kibler Jon.Kibler at aset.com
Thu Jun 24 22:37:07 GMT 2004

Joseph Stahley 3rd wrote:
> It's actually to be used for not allowing the release of what networks are
> up or down in order to provide security. If someone knows a network went
> down due to something they instigated or tried, then one will use that to
> try and damage other areas. This should have been one of the first things
> done IMHO in order to stop DOS and other types of attack. By not saying they
> were successful might reduce the amount of people trying to purposely bring
> networks down.
> Joseph

The most eloquent statement of the operationally problems that I foresee as a 
result of the DHS' proposal comes from a fellow NANOGer (wish I could claim 

> "Scott McGrath" <mcgrath at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
> > 
> > I did read the article and having worked for gov't agencies twice in my
> > career a proposal like the one floated by DHS is just the camel's nose.
> > 
> > I should hope the carriers oppose this.
> > 
> > Now a call comes into our ops center "I cant reach my experiment at
> > Stanford".  Ops looks up the outages Oh yeah there's a fiber cut affecting
> > service we will let you know when it's fixed.   They check it's fixed they
> > call the customer telling them to try it now.
> > 
> > Under the proposed regime "We know its dead do not know why or when it
> > will be fixed because it' classified information"  This makes for
> > absolutely wonderful customer service and it protects public safety how?.
> > 
> >                             Scott C. McGrath

Jon Kibler
Jon R. Kibler
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A.S.E.T., Inc.
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