[Dshield] Users don't pay attention

Aaron Lewis aaron at adldatacomm.net
Sun Aug 21 15:26:35 GMT 2005


I see this thread has gotten waaayyyy off topic.

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:list-bounces at lists.dshield.org]On Behalf Of Clinton 
> E. Troutman
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 10:15 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Dshield] Users don't pay attention
> 
> 
> On Saturday 20 August 2005 18:33, Abuse wrote:
> > ** Reply to message from "Clinton E. Troutman" 
> <troutman at mesh.net> on
> > Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:24:45 -0500
> >
> > > I would certainly hope so. However, the problem is 
> exacerbated by the
> > > ability to maliciously report folks that piss you off; 
> either manually
> > > or automated. Perhaps if there was a penalty for 
> malicious/fallacious
> > > reporting, that would be the best start to help the situation.
> >
> > While there are some people that use reports to get revenge 
> they are the
> > minority of the reports. 
> 
> I'm not certain I'm willing to believe that... I am certain 
> the number of 
> malicious reports has lessened from several years ago but I think the 
> perception that those reports may be fallacious carries much 
> weight amongst 
> those that must deal with those reports.
> 
> > The main problem is with the ISPs that ignore 
> > reports about their users zombied machines because it does 
> not directly
> > affect their systems (although it will use a lot of bandwidth).
> >
> 
> Yes, ignoring reports is a huge problem, however, I'm not certain the 
> ignoring is simply because it does not directly affect their 
> systems. More 
> likely, the ignoring is due to the perceived or actual quagmire of 
> legal/moral/ethical issues raised when an ISP is forced to 
> face they must 
> confront a client. But, as I said in an earlier post, certain blatant 
> behavior is easy to handle within the confines of AUP; then simple 
> enforcement is demanded.
> 
> -- 
> Clinton E. Troutman
> CeTro
> Independent Computer Consultant for Home,
>   Home Office, and Small Business in Fort Worth, Texas
> http://cetro.dnsalias.org/
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