[Dshield] [DShield] Yes I'm Angry

stu secmail at patchsupplier.dyndns.org
Fri Aug 26 00:41:32 GMT 2005

Too young to know what I'm gaffing about? 

Erm I know that we ARE in Europe... NOT using the European currency. Yet
any sane country would give it a miss from what's happening in France
and Germany. I think most people learnt from decimalisation; however I'm
sure that will get lost in the future.

We even have the presidency at the moment too

So before you start making assumptions on what people know because of
their age, I suggest you have a reality check. 

Also if we are not in Europe do you care to explain why we are pouring
billions of pounds into Brussels?

Another site if you need further proof http://www.ukrep.be

Remember... age isn't everything... Google is less than 10 years old and
it reads better than you

-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at lists.dshield.org
[mailto:list-bounces at lists.dshield.org] On Behalf Of Tony Earnshaw
Sent: 25 August 2005 15:19
To: General DShield Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Dshield] [DShield] Yes I'm Angry

tor, 25.08.2005 kl. 14.02 skrev stu:

> I was wondering if anyone else on the list here from the UK or
> really would agree to such a scheme? Does the fact of your information
> being sprawled about the public domain become more acceptable to
> generations?

You are as yet too young to know what you're gaffing about.

I'm originally from the U.K., 12 years in Norway, 28 years in the
Netherlands. I still (wonder why, it's useless apart from in the U.K.) l
have a bleeding inconveniently-sized British passport and a
conveniently-sized (fits in my back-pocket wallet) Dutch driver's
license. Within the year I guess I'll have a European identity card, too
- credit-card sized. In which case (in Europe the U.K. is *not* in
Europe, just as Norway and Iceland have chosen not to be), I can do
without my other identity things. I shall be glad to do so. It will cost
*me* 80 Euros (far more than that in US dollars, times 0.68 GBP), and I
shall be glad to shell out. It won't have any biometrics on it, simply a
passport photo and other details that have been verified by my local
council, before the council issues it. It should be valid in most
European countries.

I agree with Chris Wright that the British Government's (remember, the
U.K. is *NOT* in Europe, it is Bush's proxy arse licker) technical
demands are over the top. If my local council has vetted me thoroughly
and I have an alternative proof of identity, then that should be enough.
However, taken into account what I shall have to pay my local council, i
don't find the British cost exorbitant.

All in all, I'd rather have a personal ID system than not. As it is, I'm
automatically on the publicly-accessible Norwegian (from 28 years ago)
police's, tax authorities', all council's, motor authorities', doctor's,
housing, bank's, dentist's and hospital's lists. Same with Holland,
where i live now. Furthermore, Holland lets Norway know what I've been
up to (but couldn't give a damn about the U.K, remember, the U.K. is
*NOT* in Europe).

So, basically I'd be glad to have a definitive ID and proof of iton a
credit card-sized plastic document, that was acceptable world-wide.
Glad, glad, glad.


To Liza Picquard (?), by  Phil Williams on BBC Radio 5, Wed. 10th Aug.
2005, 15:59 CEST:

"What is your definition of 'poor'?"
"Well, if your only occupation is collecting dog turds for a living,
you're pretty poor ..."

mail: tonye at billy.demon.nl

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