[Dshield] My Dream ISP (was: public goals)

John B. Holmblad jholmblad at aol.com
Sun Jan 15 21:35:57 GMT 2006


regarding your comment:
<>            VoIP, however, should be only for those technical people, 
right now

For better or worse, the VOIP marketing "horse" has already left the 
barn, and not just in the U.S.  Furthermore it is being marketed not 
just to end (residential) users but to businesses as well. Cisco/Linksys 
just announced a VOIP pbx/key system tht will support up to 16 VOIP 
desksets called the SPA9000 and based on the opensource software, 
Asterisk.   Here is the url to the product announcement at the 
Cisco/Linksys www site:


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Christensen, Eric wrote:

>I like your ideas.  It would allow users that have enough sense to run a
>network to have the flexibility they want/need while allowing those that
>just want to push the button and make it work (my mom) to be secure without
>having to worry about all that "extra stuff".
>VoIP, however, should be only for those technical people, right now.  You
>get the lay person out there that doesn't understand how or why the phone
>system works and they are the ones that get hurt.  It is a very simple
>system that is needed to all VoIP users to be able to dial 911 (which is not
>only a paramount need but is also the law for good reason) but until the
>VoIP providers get their heads on straight the lay user doesn't know the
>Eric Christensen
>Network Analyst
>ECU Police Department
>(252)328-1155 - Office
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>-----Original Message-----
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>On Behalf Of Johannes B. Ullrich
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>Subject: [Dshield] My Dream ISP (was: public goals)
>Let me dream a bit. I don't suggest that ISPs have to do this. But I
>think it should be doable:
>First of all, the modem (DSL or Cable or whatever) should provide a
>firewall. By default, all inbound traffic should be blocked, and it
>should provide NAT.
>In order to enable ports, or turn it into a bridge, you have to pass a
>little exam. This would be web based and all automated. Sample question
>"do you have a personal firewall", "do you have anti virus" ...
>Depending on how well you do, you should be able to turn off the
>Firewall or the NAT.
>If there is an abuse report, the customer is called automatically. The
>system will require a response ("Press 1 if you have the issue fixed,
>press 2 if you want your modem turned into safe mode...)
>If a system turns out to be infected/hacked, and the customer does not
>respond (24hrs?), the modem is turned into a 'safe mode' which only
>allows access to a limited number of sites (update sites, anti virus,
>internal help sites...). Again: This happens after phone calls and emails.
>Once the customer fixed the system, they call the ISP (or visit the
>internal, still accessible web site), and requests to re-enable the
>modem. The ISP may do a quick scan of the system to check if the issue
>is fixed and turn the control of the modem over to the user.
>Of course, if this happens too much, more severe penalties may be put in
>Advantage of this system: Very little 'human interaction'. So it should
>be cheap to implement. And flexible, so everyone is happy.
>Some ISPs, (and in particular universities) are already very close to
>this with their "walled garden" setups that allow access to limited
>sites if a system is considered 'off'
>One big issue that came up only recently is VoIP, and the ability to
>call 911... But expecting reliable service for a 'live line' like 911
>access from a consumer "best effort" service level contract is a stretch
>to begin with (not a big fan of 911 requirement for VoIP myself... )
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