[Dshield] Mangled traffic, the IDS, etc. revisited

Andrew Willy andrewwilly at gmail.com
Mon Apr 30 01:20:29 GMT 2007

Is the SPAN port monitoring a trunk or access port?


On 4/28/07, Pete Cap <peteoutside at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Folks,
> I have continued working on this "mangled traffic" issue I mentioned on this
> list previously.
> I have discovered two issues:
> 1. Unidirectional traffic - something like 40% of the connections being
> observed by the IDS are completely one-way--so, of the tables the system
> uses to maintain state on connectoins, these are all filling up the
> "opening, not yet established" table.  It fills up, no new connections can
> be observed, IDS drops packets.
> 2. Hardware dupes - the IDS is hanging off a Cisco SPAN port.  Bit-for-bit
> copies of packets are being sent to the SPAN port *multiple times*.  IDS
> wastes cycles and RAM determining what connection dupes belong to.
> If anyone has any tips that can guide my troubleshooting from this point
> forward, I would love to hear it.
> I noticed that for the hardware dupes, there is one field that changes: the
> MAC addresses.
> One packet will go from
> 00:06:5b:fd:fd:23 (Dellcomp) -> 00:00:0c:07:ac:01 (All_HSRP_Routers)
> then its copy will go
> 00:0a:8b:ed:ef:fc (Cisco) -> 00:0b:db:a8:0a:b1 (DellESG)
> Sometimes one or both of the MAC addresses will appear multiple times.
> If anyone has any idea why this happens with a Cisco switch, I'm all ears.
> At this point I have enough ammunition to go to the boss and tell him
> "Something is wonky, but the IDS is behaving as it is supposed to."  My next
> step is to examine the switch and the VLAN setup.  Any pointers?
> Thanks in advance,
> Pete
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