[unisog] Dell LoadBalancer's?

STeve Andre' andres at msu.edu
Wed Mar 19 20:42:54 GMT 2003

This really sounds like something OpenBSD's pf packet filter
system could do very well.  The Altq package has been rolled
into pf, making it a really interesting tool for firewalls and
controling packet flow in general.  I've watched pf's growth
since it first came out in OpenBSD 3.0 (dec 2001 if I remember
right) and the version for the forthcoming v3.3 will have the
flow control mechanism.  

If you are looking at something to control packets, pf is very
worth a good look.  OpenBSD is an outstanding system too,
with really good documentation for it.

--STeve Andre'

On Wednesday 19 March 2003 14:59, John Stauffacher wrote:
> Not to put a damper on your recent purchase, but... After a couple of years
> of working in many .bombs and using a plethora of F5's products (from
> BigIPs to their DNS caching product), I can say this: You can get the same
> effect out of doing what they do, grab an x86 box -- slap BSD on it and go
> out and search for a nice software solution. Other than the web interface
> and their custom kernel patches there is nothing special about the F5
> boxen. You pay a lot and get a little. If you want to look at some nice
> load balancers, look at Alteon (or what is now Nortel
> [www.alteonwebsystems.com]), you can still find a bunch of Alteon switches
> on e-bay. The switches provide wire-speed asic based load balancing and
> content directing. To me, they seem a little bit better and a little bit
> more robust than the F5 equivalents.  And they are quite a bit more
> expandable and scalable. Anyways, that's my 2 cents...
> ++
> John Stauffacher
> Network Administrator
> Chapman University
> stauffacher at chapman.edu
> 714.628.7249
> "If the only tool you've got is an axe, every problem looks like fun!"
> "it's a lot harder to ask permission than forgiveness."
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Gibson [mailto:egibson at uwo.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:20 AM
> To: unisog at sans.org
> Subject: [unisog] Dell LoadBalancer's?
> Sorry for the potentially off topic question! But here it goes.....
> We will be purchasing a load balancer in the near term and had narrowed
> the search down to F5 or Radware. We however recently noticed that Dell
> sells the F5 stack on there 2650 server platform as an Appliance
> (PowerApp.BIG-IP). Indications from both Dell (lot's of marketing gloss)
> and F5 sales rep indicate that there is basically no functional
> difference between the F5 540 Server Appliance platform and Dell's
> PowerApp.BIG-IP.
> So my question is.... Are any of you using the Dell Appliance? If so are
> you happy with it?
> Thanks in advance
> Ed Gibson
> University of Western Ontario
> Network Operations

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