[unisog] no-ip.com etc.

Ben Curran bdc1 at humboldt.edu
Mon Oct 27 15:31:28 GMT 2003


On 24 Oct 2003 at 23:54, Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu wrote:

> Now take a deep breath, *step* *back*, relax, and ask yourself:
> 
> "Why am I trying to ban servers on student machines?  What *problem* am I
> solving by doing so?"
> 
> Is it a bandwidth issue?  

No--- It's not about bandwidth. It's about supporting/maintaining a network that aligns 
with the academic mission of a university. The tools provided are purely 
discretionary. 

A campus may elect to provide laptops, or they may elect NOT to. We (IT support 
staff) do not have to subscribe to every technical capability that comes our way just 
because it's possible, or it's cool or it exists. At this university, we've elected to 
centralize our campus servers, and allow all students accounts on these machines. 
This way, we monitor and manage the services, uptime, back-ups, and overall 
reliability of these services. Easier to manage, easier to support and easier to patch 
vulnerabilities. End result--- more and better sleep filled nights.

If so, notice that it's quite possible to hose a
> network while being a client.  The right answer here isn't banning servers, it's
> banning excessive bandwidth usage.  

See above.
> 
> Is it a DMCA/copyright/RIAA/MPAA issue?  

No---

> Hmm.. Killing the network, and doing something illegal.  

They do this all the time. Another reason to minimize exposure.

The first isn't about
> servers, and the second isn't either, and you should already have ways to deal
> with both cases.  Now ask yourself:
> 
> If they're not killing the network (which they shouldn't be because you have
> countermeasures for that) and they're not doing anything illegal (and you got
> countermeasures for that too), why are you spending time and effort trying to
> detect/ban/control a server on a student machine?
> 
Valdis, 

Ask yourself this question. 

What part of a university's academic mission are we hindering by not allowing ad-hoc 
student established servers?


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