[unisog] Trusted Computing (was Safe remote access)

Mike Wiseman mike.wiseman at utoronto.ca
Wed Jul 27 16:21:03 GMT 2005

With the key logger talk, I'd like to go a little off-topic here and ask about people's 
knowledge regarding Trusted Computing: Vista/LaGrande/TPM. Big picture questions aside, 
I'm wondering what functionality will be available when Vista is released. HW/SW key 
logger detection/prevention, software attestation? These theoretically would go a long way 
to improving the security picture. TPM is already available in many products, not sure 
about Intel's LaGrande availability.


Mike Wiseman
Computer Security Administration
Computing and Networking Services
University of Toronto

> On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 08:28:31AM -0500, Gary Dobbins wrote:
>> Anyone tried "Cisco Secure Desktop" for this?
>> A new feature with their VPN concentrators, it purportedly delivers a
>> workspace 'bubble' via a browser, the client-side part of which checks for
>> and attempts to isolate from keyloggers specifically.
>> If it works, seems ready-made for this kind of need.
> One expects the "if it works" is the operant word here. I expect this
> won't find a hardware key logger (although I haven't played with any of them
> I have played with IBM PC keyboard signals before) because if you are inline
> with the keyboard you can invisibly tap off the TTL data signal in to your
> capture buffer and nothing but a physical inspection of the keyboard cable
> (and the internals of the keyboard if the machines owner wants to run the tap)
> will find that. I suspect they mean the various software keyloggers which
> isn't the only threat here.
> Peter Van Epp / Operations and Technical Support
> Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C. Canada
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